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Do you think there can be 
a green capitalism?

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If we concieve capitalism
as  a system

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that needs to accumulate

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and therefore needs to grow,

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- because for 
accumulating capital

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you need to pay back the debt 
and its interest,

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you have to grow,

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be it a corporation, but also
a country or an administration,

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- then i would say no:

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I don't think there is today 
a compatibility

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between planetary limits
and growth.

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The economists who
bet on this solution,

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be they liberals 
or heterodox

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they think that we can 
have a decoupling,

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which means having 
a growing GDP,

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a growing corporate income,

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and at the same time reducing
environment impacts,

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energy use, 
CO2 emissions,

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waste production,
raw materials consumption.

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Such decoupling, to me, is possible
at small scale, maybe in the beginning,

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but certainly not to 
pursue infinite growth

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like some economists
are assuming.

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You only need to follow the
2% per year growth curve,

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we're going to 
multiply GDP by 2,

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or the energy consumption 
by 2, every 37 years.

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We'll multiply it
by 7 every century,

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and by 390 million
every millennium.

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Who can believe,
that in the year 3000

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we'll have cars 390 million 
times more efficient,

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or that we'll have multiplied
the GDP by 390 million

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while dividing our emissions
by 2, 3, 4, or more ?

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It is obviously 
totally utopian.

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And if we look at
the energy question :

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if we increased the consumption
by 2% per year,

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which we largely did
over the last decades,

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in 1555 years exactly,
you would need to get

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the energy from 
the entire solar star.

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Not the sun energy that hits the earth,
but the whole star itself.

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So even the promoters of fusion energy
cannot come and tell me

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that we're going to make reactors
the size of the sun.

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This shows the absurdity of the
economic system in which we are,

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based on growth.

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Therefore, there will inevitably
be a moment when,

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I don't know what will happen
between now and x390 million,

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but something will
certainly happen,

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and so Capitalism, in the sense
of accumulation,

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which requires growth,

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(rather than in the sense
of private property)

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is not sustainable.